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July 17, 2009
IITBHU Global Editor @ 01:28 AM

[Update 1]: Link to Dainik Jagran Article added
[Update 2]: Link to Times of India article, and pre-meet Hindustan Times article added.
[Update 3] (July 30, 2009): Link to The Telegraph article added.
[Update 4] (August 20, 2009): Link to The updates from the Chronicle added.

Newspapers including Amar Ujala (page viewable only in Internet Explorer, screenshot attached below) are reporting that in the executive committee meeting of BHU held on July 16, 2009, a resolution was adopted which paves the way for conversion of IT-BHU to IIT. The article reports that the resolution stipulates that the BHU VC will be the co-chairman of the board of the new IIT, and that the IIT should be on the Varanasi campus itself.

We look forward to more confirmed reports of the same. Please post any other links in the comments.

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[Update] Anuj Shukla EEE '01 sent us the link to this Dainik Jagran Post (please click the article in the second column after the page opens)

The article says

बीएचयू आईटी बना आईआईटी
वाराणसी, शिक्षा प्रतिनिधि : काशी हिंदू विश्वविद्यालय स्थित आईटी को आईआईटी का दर्जा प्राप्त हो गया है। गुरुवार को कुलपति आवास पर हुई कार्यकारिणी परिषद की बैठक में आईआईटी बनाए जाए संबंधी प्रस्ताव को पास कर दिया गया। आईआईटी बनाए जाने के बाबत मानव संसाधन एवं विकास मंत्रालय की ओर से दिए गए सभी दिशानिर्देशों को कौंसिल ने पारित कर दिया है। इसके तहत आईआईटी की गवर्निग बॉडी के को-चेयरमैन बीएचयू के कुलपति होंगे जबकि कार्यकारिणी एवं विद्वत परिषद में बीएचयू का प्रतिनिधित्व रहेगा। इस एतिहासिक फैसले के बाद से आईटी के छात्रों व शिक्षकों में जबर्दस्त खुशी की लहर दौड़ गई। लोग एक-दूसरे को बधाई देने के साथ ही मिठाइयां भी खिलाने लगे। गौरतलब है कि आईटी को आईआईटी बनाने के लिए शिक्षकों व छात्रों ने पिछले कई वर्षो से मुहिम छेड़ रखी थी। इस दौरान कई बार उन्हें निराशा हाथ लगी लेकिन अंतत: उनका संघर्ष रंग लाया और वाराणसी जिले को एक आईआईटी मिल गया। पूर्वाह्न 10 बजे से लगभग पांच घंटे तक चली कार्यकारिणी परिषद की बैठक में लिये गए अन्य फैसलों में मैकेनिकल इंजीनियरिंग विभाग के प्रो. बीबी बंसल को यूजीसी एकेडमिक स्टाफ कालेज का निदेशक बना दिया गया। इसके अलावा गत माह संपन्न विश्वविद्यालय फाइनेंस कमेटी, इन्वेस्टमेंट कमेटी तथा एकेडमिक कौंसिल द्वारा पारित फैसलों पर भी कार्यकारिणी की मुहर लग गई। विभिन्न पदों पर सीधी भर्ती के तहत 23 तथा प्रोन्नति के अंतर्गत 36 पदों पर की गई नियुक्तियों को भी कार्यकारिणी परिषद ने मुहर लगाई। नई ग्रुप लिंक इंश्योरेन्स स्कीम को अनुमोदित किया गया। एचआरडी मिनिस्ट्री द्वारा बीएचयू से संबद्ध महाविद्यालयों की संबद्धता के परिप्रेक्ष्य में निर्धारित किये गये दिशा-निर्देशों पर अमल करने के लिए विश्वविद्यालय द्वारा एक कमेटी का गठन किया गया है, इस प्रस्ताव को भी कार्यकारिणी की मंजूरी मिली। बैठक में कार्यकारिणी परिषद के सदस्य के रूप में मेजर जनरल एसएन मुखर्जी, प्रो. कमल सिंह, प्रो.एस. चूड़ामणि गोपाल, प्रो. डीएस राठौर, प्रो. लक्ष्मण चतुर्वेदी एवं प्रो. एसबी सिंह मौजूद थे।


Update: Hari points us to this Times of India article, which concurs with other reports.

VARANASI: The executive council of Banaras Hindu University (BHU) approved the proposal for IIT status to the Institute of Technology (IT) at its meeting held on Thursday.

According to the university spokesperson, it was approved that the BHU would have its representation in the proposed IIT-BHU's executive council and academic council. The BHU vice-chancellor would be the co-chairman in the governing body. It may be mentioned here that the students of IT-BHU have been raising the demand for IIT status for a long time.

The EC also approved the appointment of Prof BB Bansal of mechanical engineering department as the director of UGC Academic Staff College. Besides, 23 appointments through direct recruitment and 36 appointments through promotion were also approved by the EC. The meeting was attended by V-C Prof DP Singh, Major General SN Mukherjee, Prof Kamal Singh, Prof S Churamani Gopal, Prof DS Rathore, Prof Laxman Chaturvedi and Prof SB Singh.


[Update]: Sarfaraz (and many others) point us to this article in the Hindustan Times which says that the Minister of State for Human Resources made a statement in our support some days ago.


[Update] Several of our well-wishers have sent us the link to this Post on The Telegraph, which mentions that MHRD has okayed the name "IIT-BHU"

The article says

Deal breaks deadlock, BHU closer to IIT tag
CHARU SUDAN KASTURI

New Delhi, July 30: Banaras Hindu University's engineering wing can retain the name of its parent varsity even after being cleaved into an independent IIT, the Centre has accepted, clearing a major roadblock in the execution of a long-promised upgrade.

The university, too, has withdrawn its demand that the vice-chancellor (VC) be permanently made chairman of the new IIT in a compromise that has revived efforts to elevate the status of the Institute of Technology-BHU.

The human resource development and the law ministries have agreed to name the upgraded institute IIT-BHU -- unlike any other of India's 15 IITs -- instead of IIT Varanasi as they initially wanted, The Telegraph has learnt.

Two days after the law ministry approved IIT-BHU as the name of the new institute on July 14, the executive council of the university met and accepted a set of demands by the HRD ministry. Government officials confirmed there was still a slight divergence between the HRD ministry and the university over a key government demand. But with each conceding ground from their earlier positions, the university and the Centre have broken the deadlock, sources said.

"The compromise is significant because the plans for the upgrade of IT-BHU into an IIT were appearing bleaker with every passing day. Now it is a question of when, not whether," an official said.

IT-BHU, which for years has admitted students through the IIT Joint Entrance Examination, was first promised the IIT status, along with six other institutes, during NDA rule. An expert panel subsequently proposed that IT-BHU be granted the IIT tag.

In 2008, the HRD ministry announced it would start eight new IITs and upgrade IT-BHU into an IIT under the current Eleventh Five-Year Plan. Earlier this year, the move to upgrade IT-BHU was temporarily shelved ahead of the polls.

At the IIT council meeting in January, concerns were raised about separating IT-BHU from its parent varsity. The concerns were later echoed by others at BHU.

In February, the university's executive council passed a resolution agreeing to the upgrade of IT-BHU but placed a set of conditions the Centre has till now found unacceptable. The demands that the newly created institute should be called IIT-BHU and that the university's VC be made chairman of the board of governors of the new IIT were considered the most controversial.

IITs, by definition, were required to have an independent existence, and a name tying the new institution to an existing one was unacceptable, ministry officials had argued. While they have now accepted IIT-BHU as the new name, the university council has agreed to withdraw a proposal that a new institute be built at its Mirzapur campus.

BHU has also agreed that its vice-chancellor need not be made de-facto chairman of the new IIT. But it is still demanding that the VC be made co-chairman, a request the Centre is unwilling to accept.


[update] The ITBHU Chronicle has the latest update on this topic at this page. Please visit it and post your comments there.

131 Comment(s) (The views expressed here are those of the commenters, and ITBHUGlobal.org is not responsible for them.)
 nitin said:

BHU council may have accepted all demands by HRD , but still we need to see if they have made some goof up and slightly missed any demand , which may not be acceptable to HRD . ( like the one of vice chairman from bhu only )

Hope for the best .

July 17, 2009 3:46 AM
 Anonymous said:

As per the reports from dainik jagran,varanasi it clearly says that BHU EC has passed a resolution that fulfill all the requirements needed to convert IT BHU into an IIT,as per the wish of MHRD.

July 17, 2009 4:53 AM
 Anuj Shukla said:

Please check news on column 2


Thanks,
Anuj Shukla
trical'01

July 17, 2009 5:33 AM
 Animesh Pathak CSE03 said:

@Anuj: Thanks. We have updated the post with the link and the text.

July 17, 2009 5:49 AM
 anonymous said:

BHU VC as the co-chairman may not be acceptable to the MHRD and IIT Council. Need to make sure it is acceptable otherwise we may still have one problem at hand.

Also, since IIT is not going to be governed by BHU Act there is no need to call it IIT-BHU. We do not want to sound different from other IIT's. It will sound similar to IT-BHU.

July 17, 2009 10:39 AM
 Chandan said:

According to last month cronicle update--

VC of BHU cannot be the Chairman of the Governing Board of the proposed IIT-BHU; but he can be the Vice-Chairman and 2-3 members could be on senate/ Governing Board of IIT-BHU, as nominated by BHU.


So this mean that vc could be a co-chiarman it was proposed by HRD it self..so no worries.

Also it doesnt matter whther its iit bhu or iit v ..all we need an extra I with lots of fund.

July 17, 2009 10:53 AM
 Sarfaraz Hasan said:

The developments over the pass few days have rekindled our hopes of iit-bhu.

Cheers,

July 17, 2009 11:19 AM
 anonymous said:

Now that extra 'I' and lots are guaranteed we should try for IIT-V instead of IIT-BHU. This is the time to ask for it. After couple of years we do not want to realize that students or even faculty are preferring other IIT's over IIT-BHU just because it sounds different and still closer to IT-BHU rather than like other IIT's.

July 17, 2009 11:30 AM
 Anonymous said:

IIT-BHU lets it be different from the other 15 IITs, while IIT Varanasi makes it just one amongst the 16. With so many IITs, in a decade or so when the new IITs are fully developed, the incoming students would simply choose the IIT nearest to them, unless there is a differentiator.

IMHO, IIT-BHU is better than IIT-V. They both solve the purpose of an IIT, but the association with BHU gives it a leg up since it provides the scope for complete education (e.g. a minor in finance, music etc if possible like IIT-Bombay in future).

July 17, 2009 3:32 PM
 Anonymous said:

its really a good development and hopefully this conversion process will be completed very soon

July 17, 2009 10:39 PM
 Anonymous said:

For the first time, i read it on a local news channel flashine, in NCR. ¨IT BHU to ko mila IIT ka darja¨

July 18, 2009 7:17 AM
 Anonymous said:

For the first time, i read it on a local news channel flashine, in NCR. ¨IT BHU to ko mila IIT ka darja¨

July 18, 2009 7:18 AM
 Vikas Jindal said:

I agree IIT-BHU is more meaningful than IIT-V fortwo reasons:

1. suffix of "IIT" tag ,"V" stands only for location. One would be agree that BHU fulfill this purpose even better since physically it will be located in BHU campus.

2. One should not forget historical origin and growth of this institute and contribution of BHU into it.

July 18, 2009 10:36 PM
 Vikas said:

I agree IIT-BHU is more meaningful than IIT-V fortwo reasons:

1. suffix of "IIT" tag ,"V" stands only for location. One would be agree that BHU fulfill this purpose even better since physically it will be located in BHU campus.

2. One should not forget historical origin and growth of this institute and contribution of BHU into it.

July 18, 2009 10:37 PM
 anon said:

When can IT-BHU be declared an IIT? Our name was not included in July 15 IIT Act amendment. When can it be included now? Does anyone know? And after it is included in IIT Act it will take couple of months for formality to be completed.

July 19, 2009 4:49 AM
 Anonymous said:

No IIT amendment act was tabled on July 15. We still have scope to be included.

July 19, 2009 6:26 AM
 nitin said:

Important update : Plans of IIT still facing hurdles

http://www.telegraphindia.com/1090720/jsp/nation/story_11258574.jsp

Plan afoot to nudge BHU
CHARU SUDAN KASTURI
New Delhi, July 19: The human resource development ministry plans to shoot from the law ministry’s shoulders to scuttle demands placed by the Banaras Hindu University in exchange for losing its engineering wing.

Caught between political pressures and these demands, which it considers unreasonable, the HRD ministry is relying on the law to persuade the BHU to snap its ties with its engineering wing for its promised conversion into an IIT.

The BHU wants its Institute of Technology (IT-BHU) to remain an integral part of the university, a demand the HRD ministry is placing before the law ministry, senior officials told The Telegraph.

“Hopefully, if the law ministry concurs with us, our hands will be strengthened in convincing the BHU that its demand is unreasonable,” a senior HRD ministry official said.

IT-BHU students post-2006 argue that they joined the institute because of the promise to convert it into an IIT. But the BHU community is split, with several members opposed to losing the engineering wing, which is today the university’s most sought after department.

Under the IIT Act, which governs India’s premier engineering schools, IITs need to be independent institutions and cannot be structurally conjoined to any other institution or university.

Towards the end of its first term, the UPA government had shelved the IT-BHU conversion plan and focused on starting eight new IITs. With the new institutes now launched, the HRD ministry is under pressure to take another look at the IT-BHU conversion promise.

Failure to meet the assurance by the 2012 Uttar Pradesh Assembly polls may prove embarrassing for the Congress-led government, but HRD ministry officials are up against conditions set by the BHU that they find unacceptable.

The BHU executive council has resolved that while it supports the conversion plan, it wants the new institute named IIT-BHU and not IIT Banaras as it would normally have been named.

It also wants the BHU vice-chancellor appointed chairman of the converted IIT’s board of governors so it can retain control over the institute’s policies.

IT-BHU had first been picked with six other institutions, including the Bengal Engineering and Science University (Besu), during the NDA’s rule for conversion into IITs.

But an expert panel said IT-BHU alone deserved the tag and recommended a new category — Indian Institute of Engineering, Science and Technology — for Besu and the Cochin University for Science and Technology. Later, the UPA repeated the promise to IT-BHU.

July 19, 2009 4:40 PM
 anon said:

Can anyone tell me what's going on. Can the news published in Telegragh be corroborated? If this is true, BHU admin is playing politics again.

July 19, 2009 4:57 PM
 Anonymous said:

Selfish people in BHU who are worried about name and ownership would never let this great institution get an extra 'I', they are just fighting on small things but dont realize what getting an extra 'I' can help IT BHU with. I am sorry to say but dream of IT BHU becoming an IIT would only remain a dream.

July 19, 2009 6:03 PM
 Anonymous said:

Yes I agree, IT BHU will never turn into an IIT because of selfish people.

ajoshi.

July 19, 2009 6:18 PM
 N Singh from US said:

If the report is true then students and staff of IT should gherao the VC again as he is going back to his words. Meet the MP from Varanasi, Mr. Joshi, he said one of his priorities was to make IT-BHU an IIT and also meet Rahul gandhi once again. We can not leave it undone. We all support you guys.

July 19, 2009 6:29 PM
 nitin said:

Agreed there are selfish people , But there is also considerable pressure from students , parents , teachers and alumni community . So I think it is not time to loose hope .

July 19, 2009 6:30 PM
 Abhijeet said:

There is some confusion here. The earlier articles say that EC agreed that VC would be the Co-Chair of governing body of the IIT, while this article mentions the old thing, that VC wants to be the Chairman of the Governing body. Can anyone confirm these? How can this change over the weekend, when offices are closed, unless it is changed on Friday?

July 19, 2009 7:47 PM
 If_Only said:

Hi,

While there is no doubt that the BHU VC is not at all enthusiastic in giving up it's demand. But he too knows that the situation may precipitate. Because of three factors, viz:

1) The present MP is Dr. Murli Manohar Joshi. While BJP may not be in power, nevertheless it has its own impact when a former HRD minister comes for rescue of it, for a VC is nothing but a normal academician with very limited power, though as a VC he hold full control.

2) The all veiled powerful Mr. Rahul Gandhi has in principle supported the cause. Since he is focusing on UP alone these days, for the upcoming UP Assembly elections to be held in 2012, this makes the EC of BHU a bit jittery to go all out against the wishes the the powerful scion.

3)Our own distinguished alumni have done commendable job in channelizing the who's who. But since they don't have political say so their efforts may not be all that glaringly evident. Mostly it's because their were many who are selflessly fighting for the cause without coming forward.

Now, what I wish to project is that, the nomenclature may give some cold nerves to the Secretary MHRD, but it will finally be not an issue. E.g Roorkee is not a district, it is Dehradun, but do we call it IIT –Dehradun?? The Society of IIT-Delhi is still called the College of Engineering Delhi. When IIT-Kgp was established, then Kharagpur was not a district. It was Midnapore.
Madras and Bombay are no more formal names of the respective cities.

When IIT-G can be established by blackmail (read Assom Accord) then don't think that IIT system is a God made phenomena.

My intention is that while their is no room for being pessimistic, it high time that the Present students with the active guiding beacon from the illustrious alumni may channelize themselves and put some more pressure upon only two people, viz.
1) Dr. Murli Manohar Joshi &
2) The all powerful and the mighty scion Mr. Rahul Gandhi.

Remember it was Dr. Murli Manohar Joshi who just for the sake of Motilal Nehru REC, Allahabad had upgraded the whole REC system into NIT. Pls don't argue with your contention here. I have seen this very closely. We may have another platform to do so. Converting Allahabad Univ to Central univ was almost done by him, although the formal announcement was made by UPA Govt.

So don't worry and meet in full strength with these two personalities. So your presence. Don’t sit quietly. Never make it an evidently political issue, but surely make is a "hot potato", meaning that make it a pseudo political issue with an academic mask over its face. This is the only way the unwarranted opposition of the all powerful BHU and its VC can be arrested.
This is purely my opinion; you are free to argue, but most importantly don’t loose time. Don’t think that the IIT Act or for that matter any Act will come very frequently in the parliament for multi amendments. If this time it does not include IT-BHU's name along with other new 8 IITs, then probably it may be relegated into oblivion.

Regards,
If_Only

July 19, 2009 8:13 PM
 anon said:

This is not the time to give up. BHU admin seems to be very good in playing politics. We should do whatever it takes to pressurize VC / BHU EC to let the institute be autonomous. Alumni, students, faculty/staff have invested too much of their time, money, efforts already. We are way beyond point of no return. BHU admin is being stubborn and unresonable as well as selfish. We need to be stubborn and persistent too. Need to put immense external pressure through Mr. Joshi, Gandhi, and take support of MHRD / law ministry as stated within one of the previous comments. Fight for justice and what is rightfully ours, the IIT status.

July 19, 2009 9:40 PM
 Shailendra Gupta said:

Lets Do It !!

July 19, 2009 10:26 PM
 Anonymous said:

Students in campus, please meet the VC as soon as possible and get clarification and take necessary actions accordingly. We should not lose time. My guess is that we have political backing. Only the VC and his chellas are becoming obtacles. Lets do it.

July 20, 2009 2:39 AM
 Raghvendra Mishra said:

Hi All,

Please stop saying that IT-BHU will not become IIT,some of our friends,current students and seniors have done very hard work to bring the possible conversion to this extent,so please contribute something and boost their morale.

July 20, 2009 4:57 AM
 Anonymous said:

The name IIT BHU should not have any problem, because we can see what is the name of IIM Shilong? Its actual name is Rajiv Gandhi Indian Institute of Management. The same MHRD have approved this name of IIM Shilong. Then where is the Problem? We need to project our case strongly before MHRD and BHU EC.

July 20, 2009 6:22 AM
 Anonymous said:

Time for action -

Can any one from campus update..whats the plan now.We really need to put one last effort to put things back on track.

July 20, 2009 7:25 AM
 Anonymous said:

Keep it up guys. we will do it !! Don't listen to these naysayers who have nothing to contribute but negativity. Everyone can do backseat driving, but only a few have the guts to take the steering in hand.

July 20, 2009 5:44 PM
 Anonymous said:

There is not much to be gained from the Institute being part of BHU. The very idea of VC from BHU being co-chairman sounds odd.

Why co-chairman , why not be a senate member ?

What have they given to IT BHU ?

IITs survive on being automous, being self reliant.
As soon as you break that rule you will get babugiri from these guys. He will now appoint faculty and staff and we all know fruitful that goes.

No IIT will survive like this let alone the fact that there are 15 IITs now.

WAKE UP Mr. VC. Stop playing this game. We do not want this BHU tag. Gets you nowhere.

July 20, 2009 6:45 PM
 Abhijeet: said:

You are forgetting. Ultimately VC's yes or no is required. The trump card is with him. We can only try. So we will have to work with him. It is our bad luck that our institute is tied with BHU. Accept that and try to get whatever we can, rather than turning the system against us totally. Heated words will not do any good for anyone.

July 20, 2009 7:56 PM
 If_Only said:

Hi,
Just to inform you all, the kind of "heart change" that our EC and VC has shown in the 16th July meeting via-a-vis 21Feb 2009 meeting is for everybody to see.

1) They dropped the much illogical demand of shifting IIT to Mirzapur. No state can have 2 IITs. This is an unwritten and unofficial defacto law. Under very special case IT-BHU was to be converted. If a brand new Campus was to be made in Mirzapur then why to destroy IT-BHU, why not to establish the new IIT in Mirzapur and continue with IT-BHU in Varanasi. This was highly impractical and insane too.

2) How come IIT which in itself is a pseudo university be governed by BHU ACT which is also a university. Even a moron Law graduate will tell you the inherent flaw in the contention.

3) Pay scale wise the status of the Director of IIT is slightly higher than the VC of a Central University. This everybody knows. Then how come the VC as a Chairman of the IIT counsel holds higher rank than the IIT director, which shall be an ex-officio member of the said committee.

We all know that the BHU admin knew that such logic can never be accepted and hence MHRD will drop it. Also, BHU can just walk away by saying that they tried a lot but it eventually failed at the altars of the MHRD.

So what I want to say???? I was talking about the change of heart of the VC ..... Right????
This change of heart has come from mostly 3 counts.. not because of some love for IT but because of jitter and to some extent "fear" too. Let me explain it..

1) The kind of gathering the IT-BHU's present students have done in New Delhi some time back along with the support of the illustrious alumni, was something totally unexpected for the BHU Admin. It highlighted that the issue has become a hot potato. It ensured that like always it can not be anymore put under the carpet.

2) A former MHRD minister and former BJP president, Dr. Murli Manhor Joshi stood from Varanasi for Lok Sabha elections. He raised the question of IT-BHU in Rajya Sabha. Let me tell you that any question raised in the parliament has the ability to send cold shivers even into the might IAS and IPS, a VC is just a normal academician. Most importantly he worked in the background. He wrote letter to the VC asking him to be supportive. He talked the Secretary MHRD, Mr RP Agarwal and asked to proceed. All this has quantum effect.

3) Mr Rahul Gandhi is aware of the situation. He is focusing on UP too much. So it’s anybody's guess that when this mighty scion is interested in something then it's hard for an inconsequential VC to go awry.

4) The Eleventh Five Year Plan has given almost nothing to the most populous state UP. A Central university that too in Greater Noida. Anybody knows how much it is in Delhi or in UP. So IT-BHU conversion had become more legitimate in the political circles.

Now all this is background…… Let me tell you all the present students very clearly one finer point. You may chastise me or be critical of me after listing the following, but don't let you conscience cheat you.
Don't think that it is only for the Alumni to do all the Channelizing and most of you to abuse and blame others for IT-BHU's hurdles. The onus lies squarely upon you. You have to show the veneration to you Alma mater. Rise to the occasion. Let me tell you that the VC is under tremendous pressure. But the admin is a soil sport. Meet in large numbers in a totally Gandhian way to Dr. Murli Manohar Joshi and Mr. Rahul Gandhi. Show you passion silently and in a totally academic way. Time is the most precious thing here. A single statement from these two personalities, preferably Mr. Gandhi can change things in a surprising way.

And if at the end of this journey things do not materialize for our Alma Mater, which I hope shall not be the case, then for god sake don't blame anybody else other than yourself. I know I have invited the wrath of many present students, but if it summons your dedication and the spirits for you Alma mater then it is worth it.


Regards,
If_Only

July 20, 2009 9:10 PM
 Sunil said:

This is time for action I request to all the alumni and students to meet with the Dr Joshi and Rahul Gandhi as well as Kapil Sibbal.

July 20, 2009 10:50 PM
 Shailendra Gupta said:

Can someone senior give updates on exact situation and what exactly has BHU EC approved along with the issues MHRD might be facing??

We have not heard anything for quite few days and it simply CHILLS us.

July 21, 2009 1:27 AM
 anonymous said:

Someone needs to contact CHARU SUDAN KASTURI who published article in Telegraph. Did he collect this information couple of days or weeks before the July 16th BHU EC meeting? It is possible that Mr. Kasturi was just late in getting his article published in Telegraph (on July 19th and after the results of BHU EC meeting were out on July 17th). In that case results of BHU EC meeting on July 16th would be more current and accurate as far as the status of IT to IIT conversion process.

July 21, 2009 10:53 AM
 Anonymous said:

There have not been any news since last couple of days. Whats happening ?

July 21, 2009 6:08 PM
 Dr. AK, Professor said:

Let it be IIT-BHU! Let it be a win-win for all the people who love BHU and at the same time, who have always supported the cause of promoting the best possible education (why else, do you think IT-BHU joined IIT-JEE in 1972?).

During my undergrad years, I always wished it to become an IIT! Secretly, we even fancied replacing the signboards of IT-BHU with an "IIT"!

I am fully satisfied with all that IT-BHU (IIT-BHU!) gave to me. PLEASE, let it be IIT-BHU just like they have IIT-Roorkee.

I had an AIR rank of 26 in the Univ of Roorkee entrance exam (that's what it used to be called those days) and I ditched it gladly to join IT-BHU and I am proud of my decision. Just one 'I' was missing - let it be an "IIT-BHU" now!

Don't fall for anything else. 10 years down the road, there will be 100 IITs and the only way people would differentiate, here in the US, one engineering college vs another is how long it has been in business. Folks from IT-BHU occupy powerful positions here in academia, government, and industry (my senior Nikesh Arora is now a VP of Google, for example)!

Let it be IIT-BHU!!

July 21, 2009 6:34 PM
 Animesh Pathak CSE03 said:

Dear all,
Currently there is no clear info from the Govt. side, but the indications we have are positive. We will be posting more updates as soon as we can.

In the meantime, if you are using twitter, you can follow us at http://www.twitter.com/itbhuglobal for instantaneous update as we know something.

Thanks,
Animesh
CSE03

July 22, 2009 3:17 AM
 anonymous said:

Animesh, please post any info that you are sure of. All of us are too impatient to wait for July issue of Chronicle to come out, which will be another two weeks.

July 22, 2009 4:35 AM
 Animesh Pathak CSE03 said:

Dear anon:

We will be posting updates as soon as we can, even if it is before the chronicle comes out. The chronicle article will have a summary of all the developments. This post will be updated as and when we get updates.

Thanks,
Animesh

July 22, 2009 4:49 AM
 nitin said:

Livemint update is also exciting but at the same time it talks about those "seven other institutes" . So again fingers crossed :)

July 22, 2009 9:06 AM
 Praharsh Sharma said:

The Live-Mint post is good to see. We would confirm more on the cabinet note thing.

July 22, 2009 10:04 AM
 Praharsh Sharma ECE2010 said:

No worries about the other institutes thing. The Cabinet note may not speak of it. Live-Mint would have just used the information to recapitulate the matter and build context for its readers. It should be this simple. The intended audience is not only us who follow the matter every minute but it is for the people in general.

July 22, 2009 10:25 AM
 If_Only said:

@ Nitin..

Though you have raised a vaild point that ".....at the same time it talks about those "seven other institutes" ., but we must a finer point in this article....

That finer point is a byte from a MHRD official.. surely he must be of the rank of under/joint/additional secretary to utter such thing

“The note is being prepared with details on its executive council and other institutional structures and functions. It will be sent to the cabinet soon,’’ the official told

While the correspondent may itself be not seized of the matter, so he may have raised the old issue of other 6 institute..
What is significant is the statement of the concerned MHRD official....

July 22, 2009 10:28 AM
 chandan said:

Ya true..Live mint update seems to be good and authentic.Because the author i.e Pallavi sing generally writes articles related to Indian education system .One can check her all article on live mint all are having info released from HRD .So even this news she must have taken from internal sources from HRD.

July 22, 2009 11:11 AM
 Anonymous said:

So finally director also mentioned the IIT conversion in orientation speech. Here is the email, some sent to itbhu yahoo group

***************************************
Yesterday during the orientation programme , it is learnt the Director IT-BHU, in his welcome note to the freshers said "Join IT-BHU and pass out from IIT-BHU".
It is quite encouraging that the efforts by the students during previous years' struggle has started taking shape. Congratulations for their honest campaign and achievement.
*****************************************

July 23, 2009 6:44 AM
 nitin said:

I have got "confirmed news" of "many" freshers joining ITBHU only because it is getting converted to IIT . I don't want to disown director sir's worlds but still we need to take care and continue our efforts .

July 23, 2009 7:48 AM
 Ramesh said:

Dear Friends,

My son has joined IT BHU this year. I attended the Orientation Programme on 22-Jul-2009. It was the Rector of BHU who confirmed the truth about the resolution passed by the Executive Committee in their meeting on 16-Jul-2009 accepting to the conversion of IT BHU to IIT and further the VC of BHU will be the Vice-chairman of the Board of Governors of IIT-BHU. Hence, it has come from the horse's mouth and let us hope things desired by all of us happen very quickly.

R Ramesh

July 23, 2009 6:33 PM
 If_Only said:

@ Shri R. Ramesh Sir:

Dear Sir,
Is it possible for you to recall exactly what was the Rector's wordings. Was it "VICE-Chairman" OR as speculated widely "CO- Chairman". Pls try to recall it, if possible re-confirm it.
If it is "VICE-Chairman", then it essentially means that BHU EC has in toto accepted the requirements of MHRD. Hence it will be 100% sure now, without any delay.

Regards,
If_Only

July 23, 2009 8:05 PM
 Praharsh Sharma ECE2010 said:

@ If_Only / @ Shri R.Ramesh

Please recall what was said there. Also, it might be Co-Chairman only as that was the word in the Press Release by BHU which obviously is authentic.

July 23, 2009 8:16 PM
 If_Only said:

@Praharsh:

Praharsh,
Is it possible for you to make sure from the freshers about this wording?? This is significant not only from the point of view of the impending technicality but to put it in a larger picture for the future prospects of the prospective IIT also, in it's day to day policy and governance.
May be few other 3rd/4th year rites parallely try to ascertain it.
But make sure that you people don't project even a semblance of "ragging stuff". :)

Regards,
If_Only

July 23, 2009 9:49 PM
 Anonymous said:

Good going guys. Hopefully our mission of saving one of the best engineering institution in India will succeed after all...

keep us updated.

July 24, 2009 6:05 AM
 Shailendra Gupta said:

Well it seems that most of the people know IIT word and not even what it means.
I guess best part of any college is its alumni association and seniors (supporting u in ur senior years).

People get rewards as per what they have chosen in their lives and I suppose rewards are more for ITBHU guys than for anyone else, which they would most realize after passing out of college ....

So dont u worry guys ....

July 24, 2009 8:57 PM
 Shailendra Gupta said:

As per Mint news - If MHRD is preparing a note for cabinet then it definitely means that MHRD is fine with the BHU EC's resolution for ITBHU.

I guess even if we think that things are moving in the right direction, we can once meet Mr Rahul Gandhi to say thanks for proceedings till now, which will help us ensure that things go right further.

July 24, 2009 9:28 PM
 chandan said:

@anon-

Please dont post links for these kind of article in this thread.This thread is dedicated to IT BHU to IIT conversion issues and status.

July 26, 2009 7:02 AM
 Anonymous said:

Chandan, Sorry about that. Will not post again.

July 26, 2009 7:27 AM
 Ravi Modi said:

Article in The Telegraph regarding views of MHRD

http://www.telegraphindia.com/1090720/jsp/nation/story_11258574.jsp

Ravi Modi
1986 (Mech)

July 26, 2009 8:06 PM
 Anonymous said:

Ravi,
this is a old news.

July 27, 2009 5:07 AM
 anon said:

I feel only and sure way that we can breach into 'TOP 5' is conversion to IIT . After that I do not see any possibility of ITBHU not going into TOP 5 . But yes , reverse is also true ! So keep going :)

July 27, 2009 5:58 AM
 Anonymous said:

Following news is from TOI. It seems that VC talked to president about the issues of converting ITBHU to IIT. I am not sure what kind of issues he talked about.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/NEWS/City/Varanasi/BHU-V-C-visits-Prez-at-Rashtrapati-Bhawan/articleshow/4826354.cms

VARANASI: Vice-chancellor of Banaras Hindu University (BHU) Prof DP Singh called on President and Visitor of BHU Pratibha Devi Singh Patil at

Rashtrapati Bhawan, New Delhi, on Monday.

According to the university spokesperson, the V-C apprised the President of the remarkable activities at BHU and its Rajiv Gandhi South Campus in Barkachha in Mirzapur district. The V-C told the President that under the environment campaign, tree plantation would be conducted in 400-acre area on the South Campus. The UP government has sanction a fund of Rs 5 crore for the tree plantation in Mirzapur and Sonebhadra regions. He also apprised the President of the issues related to the up gradation of the Institute of Technology to IIT, establishment of Unesco chair on peace and centre for environment and sustainable development.

The V-C also met Union HRD minister Kapil Sibbal on Sunday and requested him to clear the proposal worth of Rs 100 crore proposed under the 11th Five Year Plan.

July 27, 2009 10:12 AM
 Anonymous said:

I just hope that IT gets converted..... I hope VC has finally started to support the conversion

July 27, 2009 10:38 AM
 Anonymous said:

me not sure abt what issue VC raised, was it against the separation of IT with BHU ??

I am really sceptical abt BHU administration, hope this is just my fear...

lets c how things come up...

July 27, 2009 11:51 AM
 Anonymous said:

This worries me now. Why did VC approach president to discuss something, if he is satisfied?

July 27, 2009 12:20 PM
 Anonymous said:

Did u guys have a closer look at this, from the article -

"He also apprised the President of the issues related to the up gradation of the Institute of Technology to IIT"

What kind of issues is he talking about ??

July 27, 2009 9:23 PM
 Shailesh Ch. Sinha said:

One should not forget that the Loksabha , the EC of a University and the President office are serious places , if a issue is raised in these places one should not fear or apprehend of a positive outcome.

July 27, 2009 9:50 PM
 Shailendra Gupta said:

We already dont have much time.
Its time for action for us too, we cant let it go after reaching so close to it.

The students hold the Major say for its college's future not a VC or EC and if we guys raise voice noone can stop the conversion.

Lets move guys!!

July 27, 2009 9:59 PM
 Anonymous said:

No IIT amendment bill in Parliament on July 27 also. Now the last opportunity is August 3. That is the last Monday reserved for the bill.

July 28, 2009 7:42 AM
 Abhijeet said:

Can someone (Anshuman, Animesh, Yogesh) clarify the importance of this piece of news? As far as I understand, if VC had something he could put the hurdles during EC meeting itself. If he had agreed to everything, and then went to discuss things with President in general, probably it's nothing to worry about. The context of the news gives me an idea that VC just met the President to give her an overall picture of what's going on in the University. That includes the activities of conversion. The choice of words "issues" may be just casual for the writer. They don't know it can raise our eyebrows.

July 28, 2009 7:44 AM
 Animesh said:

From what we know, this is NOT a majorly important piece of news. The IIT issues is one of many things that were reportedly discussed. I would categorize it as a general periodic meeting. I agree with Abhijeet's PoV.

Thanks,
Animesh

July 28, 2009 7:47 AM
 Anonymous said:

Any news regarding whether govt. is putting IIT bill in parliament on coming monday and has included ITBHU in that?

July 30, 2009 1:12 AM
 Rahul said:

looks like we have some good news coming..."now its question of when not whether"

http://www.telegraphindia.com/1090731/jsp/nation/story_11304010.jsp

now keep the fingers crossed!!

July 30, 2009 2:14 PM
 Anonymous said:

The news still says " But it is still demanding that the VC be made co-chairman, a request the Centre is unwilling to accept." I am not sure what is the difference between Co-chairman and vice-chairman!! Can anyone throw some light?

July 30, 2009 2:53 PM
 Anonymous said:

Great News guys.Keep the momentum high and make it happen. IIT-BHU is the best.I wish and pray we can get the IIT status asap. It would be so good for our great institute

July 30, 2009 3:38 PM
 ravi said:

Great News guys.Keep the momentum high and make it happen. IIT-BHU is the best.I wish and pray we can get the IIT status asap. It would be so good for our great institute

July 30, 2009 3:39 PM
 Shailesh Ch. Sinha said:

Co-chairman is like a co-author in a technical paper he can write but can't deliver , whereas a vice chairman can act as a chairman in his (Cman) absence .............Vice-chairman can be part of a board but a co-chairman can not be but can always advice. In an autonomous body like an IIT, directly controlled by government appointed advisory board .....third party suggestions are not solicited.

July 31, 2009 1:42 AM
 Anonymous said:

Though its a great news still IIT-BHU sounds bizarre like RGIIM. Though RGIIM is an IIM still it ranks lowest in students perception not becasue it's new IIM rather it has got an unconventional name. I don't know whether JEE broucher will mention 16 IITs and ISM Dhanbad OR 15 IITs, IIT-BHU & ISM Dhanbad :(

August 1, 2009 8:27 AM
 Anonymous said:

I don't think IIM ranks low because of its unconventional name. It ranks low because it is very new, without adequate faculty, and location. I don't know why people are so obsessed with name "IIT-BHU". IF you can prove your metal, your name cannot push your rank down. We, as IT-BHU, still figure in top ten. We are less preferred because we do not have an extra "I". In my opinion, having association with BHU will be an advantage, not disadvantage. It's just on us how we sell that. If we keep saying that BHU is bad for us, people will believe us. On the other hand, if we say BHU is good for us, people will still believe us.

August 1, 2009 8:39 AM
 anon said:

I am not the previou anonymous guy but a new anon who supports that IT-BHU be named IIT-V. I have always felt that unconventional name (IIT-BHU)will hurt us. Even new students are preferring recent IITs even though they lack adequate faculty, facilities, and campus. So, above comment that RGIIM ranks low because of inadequate faculty and location does not seem to be true. Moreover, if JEE brochure mentions 15 IITs, IIT-BHU, and ISM then new students and their parents are still going to perceive a difference between IIT at Varanasi and other 15 IITs, which will not be good as these 15 will be the preferred ones. There are lot of IITs (15) for top rankers to go to. We need our institute to sound as one among them to be chosen by top rankers. Remember that not having an extra 'I' also made our institute sound different. So, there are some disadvantages to sounding different. Why do you then want to sound different? I personally think that, for now, we should go with IIT-BHU just because we have no choice but after couple of years change the name, if possible, to IIT, Varanasi. As I predict we will see some difference in more top ranking students joining institute at Varanasi then. There are undoubtedly going to be some finite (non-zero)effects just based on perception.

August 1, 2009 9:13 AM
 Anonymous said:

There is no point in arguing for IIT, Varanasi anymore. It is done deal (as per the report), and it is the best thing we could get. If somebody does not come to IIT-BHU, and joins new IITs just because it is not IIT, Varanasi, he or she will be the looser, not IIT-BHU. We should now focus on getting extra 'I', which is going to be a reality very soon. In 1977, JEE ranker 2 joined ECE, IT-BHU. Hopefully those days will come back soon.

August 1, 2009 9:40 AM
 Shailendra Gupta said:

Stop it guys!! Please!! fighting for nothing??

U guys are losing your own credibility by doing so !!

Lets be a helping hand or at least a praying one, rather than fighting among ourselves ....

August 1, 2009 10:24 AM
 anon said:

I know it is a done deal. AIR 2 was TRA's son and in that sense an exception. If you were a top ranker next year (and getting computer science in any IITs) and a Mirzapur resident, a town close to Varanasi, which institute would you rather choose: IIT-BHU, IIT Kharagpur, IIT Roorkee, or IIT Kanpur? All these institutes are pretty close to each other (and to Mirzapur). Which would be your last preference. This is my point.

August 1, 2009 11:28 AM
 Anonymous said:

I'm sorry, but do not agree to the two anons above. IIT-BHU is better than IIT Varanasi. With 16 IITs, after 5-10 years, why would someone go to varanasi and not to say the new IITs in jaipur or chandigarh ? Unless there is a compelling reason to do so ? We all know that those cities have better facilities than varanasi. The only reason people would go to varanasi is if it stands out from other IITs. This distinction can come with association with BHU.
IIT Kharagpur and Kanpur are consistently loosing their top status to Delhi and Bombay because now IIT-KGP and IIt-K do not have that compelling aura they once use to have and ofcourse do not have the facilities of a metro like Delhi & Bombay.

At this point all that matters is that ITBHU becomes IIT. doesn't matter if its is called IIT A, B, or C. All the names would give it same due recognition that it deserves.

August 1, 2009 11:39 AM
 Animesh Pathak said:

Dear all,

Please note that this post is about updates on the IIT status process (and what alumni can do to help in it), and not about what will be a good name for us once we get the missing "I".

Given that this is a public page, and we get visitors from outside the institute family also, we need to stay on focus.

Therefore, all those who want to debate what a good name for the institute should be are respectfully requested to visit the Forums at https://www.itbhuglobal.org/forum/ and post a message in the Gup Shup section. We will not be approving any more comments on the naming topic at this post.

Thanks,
Animesh Pathak
CSE03
Editorial Team, ITBHUGlobal.org

August 1, 2009 11:45 AM
 Rahul said:

The business calender of lok sabha does not contain IIT/BHU ammendment act in its list of legislative business to be undertaken on 3rd August.

The alumni group working on this project may please post or share the available update on the actual status with the IT BHU fraternity.

August 1, 2009 9:06 PM
 anonymous said:

What is the news on IT Amendment Act ? Was our institute included along with other IITs on August 3rd?

August 3, 2009 7:58 AM
 Yogesh Upadhyaya said:

Dear all:

I request everyone to show restraint while posting comments. It should not be directed against any govt. official, institute personnel, newsmedia, reporters, etc. This is because this site is a public one and can be viewed by anyone outside our college.

On 27 July, one 'Annonymous" (from Kansas, USA) posted a comment misquoting me about my internal email to a news media and its reporter. This was brought to my notice and my relation with that news media is strained. I was forced to remove that offensive post, although I wanted to avoid it. Also request to post your full name, if you prefer.

Thanks,

Yogesh K Upadhyaya
chemical 1977

August 3, 2009 5:10 PM
 Anonymous said:

Is there any new update?

August 3, 2009 6:53 PM
 Shailendra Gupta said:

Hello Guys
Is there any update??

I tried searching news and did not find anything at all related to IT amendment act or BHU act or anything ....

August 3, 2009 9:35 PM
 Anonymous said:

If not 3rd August, what is the probability for next Monday (10th August)? Someone from core group, please let us know.

August 4, 2009 2:01 PM
 Anonymous said:

current parliament session is ending on 7 august so no chance for next monday. guys plz provide some updates......

August 4, 2009 10:41 PM
 Saurabh Dubey said:

http://164.100.47.132/lobtext/15/II/LOB6.8.2009.pdf

Seems its not included for 6th.

And looks like this this parliament session is ending on 7th.

As below link shows this current session is from
02/07/2009 to 07/08/2009

http://164.100.47.132/LssNew/Business/listOfBusinessCurrent.aspx.

I think we have just more day

August 4, 2009 11:34 PM
 Anonymous said:

Submitting again as second link was broken in my previous post!

--------------------

http://164.100.47.132/lobtext/15/II/LOB6.8.2009.pdf

Seems its not included for 6th.

And looks like this this parliament session is ending on 7th.

As below link shows this current session is from
02/07/2009 to 07/08/2009

http://164.100.47.132/LssNew/Business/listOfBusinessCurrent.aspx

I think we have just more day

---------

Saurabh Dubey
CHE-2004

August 4, 2009 11:53 PM
 Praharsh Sharma said:

Firstly, the name will be IIT-BHU.

Secondly, the IT Act modification has not been done in this Parliament session (neither for us and nor for new IITs) due to detailed paper work which needs to be done in these issues (again not only for our issue but also new IITs thing). It will now be done in the next session (Oct-Nov) only.

Thirdly, this does not mean that we are hung till Oct-Nov. We will be 'done' when we have a Cabinet Meeting approval and PIB release of the same.

Lastly, about the progress of the issue, the working team is very much tracking and taking care of the developments and in very much know of the current situation and future procedure .

All the best!

-
Praharsh Sharma
+91-9838001871
B.Tech. Part-IV ECE

August 6, 2009 3:33 AM
 Anonymous said:

Here is another news item in TOI

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/news/city/varanasi/New-academic-session-begins-at-BHU/articleshow/4864148.cms

While speaking on new academic session in BHU. VC mentioned about ITBHU --> IIT upgrade. It looks like issues of who will govern IIT BHU is still far from over.

August 6, 2009 9:36 AM
 Abhijeet Ghoshal said:

He mentioned about linkages of the academic and administrative governance, not complete governance. Of course, linkages will be there, IIT senate will have VC-BHU as one of its member. People from electricity board, and faculty members from BHU are also proposed to be there to represent BHU. I don't think Govt. objected for that. The only thing which is unclear is Co-Chairmanship or Vice-Chairmanship for VC.

August 6, 2009 11:05 AM
 Anonymous said:

Two hindi news papers are also showing same news that VC has declared that all the formalities from BHU side has been completed.:

http://in.jagran.yahoo.com/news/local/uttarpradesh/4_1_5685237.html

http://www.amarujala.com/today/vnsnews.asp?city=06VNS17M.asp

August 6, 2009 4:14 PM
 Shailendra Gupta said:

What VC says does not matter much I guess, As he has already passed the resolution and only thing that might worry us is - how comfortable MHRD feels about VC being co-chairman.

August 6, 2009 10:04 PM
 Anonymous said:

Any new updates?

August 10, 2009 6:15 AM
 anonymous said:

What happened to latest issue of Chronicle with news update on status of conversion?

August 12, 2009 4:33 PM
 Anonymous said:

"Sibal has argued in his letter to Moily that all funds allocated to the HRD ministry under the XIth plan for starting new IITs had been earmarked for the eight promised institutes. So, it will not be possible for the ministry to start an IIT in Karnataka during the current plan, Sibal is learnt to have written. "

http://www.telegraphindia.com/1090818/jsp/nation/story_11372491.jsp

August 18, 2009 6:03 AM
 anonymous said:

The above article does not mention anything about IT-BHU, only about 8 'promised' IITs. Are we still not 'promised' in his mind after all this?

August 18, 2009 8:57 AM
 Anonymous said:

What does this mean ?? Is our insti also queued for next 5 yr plan ? minister says all fund have been used by 8 IIT..

August 18, 2009 9:17 AM
 Anonymous said:

I think, the key to success lies with current students. We need to make sure that we do not loose next opportunity (Oct & Nov parliamentary session).

August 18, 2009 6:17 PM
 Anonymous said:

We need to build pressure before the next parliamentary session. If we just wait for the next session then nothing will happen like this time.

August 18, 2009 11:29 PM
 Anonymous said:

What should we go ahead?? ppl associated with the matter pls guide...seems like lobbying/pressurizing is not good in current situation.

August 19, 2009 1:13 AM
 Animesh said:

Dear all:

Thanks for sharing the links. We have taken note of them, and will investigate if they will have an adverse effect on our conversion process.

The parliament is in break now, so not much action is happening in Delhi. While we must pay attention to IIT-related news reports, I would also advice against unnecessary panic.

best wishes,
Animesh
CSE03
P.S. I strongly recommend that the commentors also add their names to their comments.

August 19, 2009 1:23 AM
 Arvind Gupta said:

Dear All,

There is nothing to panic about. Our file is moving ahead within the MHRD, faster than the generally accepted speed within MHRD but much slower than our expected speed!!!

- Arvind Gupta, EcE 1992

August 19, 2009 2:23 AM
 Animesh said:

The ITBHU Chronicle has the latest update on this topic at this page. Please visit it and post your comments there.

best wishes,
Animesh
CSE03

August 20, 2009 4:30 AM
 lalit said:

We are IITian Now.no conformation needed.

September 7, 2009 1:36 PM
 Lalit said:


We are now IITian. all our efforts didnot go in vain.Just Cheers:)

http://www.telegraphindia.com/1090908/jsp/nation/story_11464099.jsp

September 7, 2009 1:50 PM
 Anonymous said:

http://www.telegraphindia.com/1090908/jsp/nation/story_11464099.jsp

Sibal clears last hurdle in BHU road to IIT
CHARU SUDAN KASTURI

New Delhi, Sept. 7: Human resource development minister Kapil Sibal has cleared the last roadblock to the conversion of Banaras Hindu University’s engineering wing into an IIT, accepting an administrative umbilical chord threatening to strangle the promised upgrade.

Sibal has accepted a BHU demand that its vice-chancellor be made a co-chairman on the board of governors of the proposed IIT to be created by cleaving the 93-year old university.

Top government officials confirmed to The Telegraph that Sibal yesterday signed his approval on the BHU demand, ending over three years of hectic bargaining between the university and the Centre.

The Institute of Technology, BHU, first promised IIT status under the NDA government, may now finally be an IIT by the start of the 2010 academic session. “The minister’s signature effectively seals the deal,” a top official said.

There are no longer any differences between the HRD ministry and BHU on the structure and administration of the new institute, which will be called IIT-BHU.

IT-BHU is now scheduled to become India’s 16th IIT and the first that will bear in its name a link to another institution.

The government and BHU will need to complete a series of bureaucratic and parliamentary procedures before IT-BHU’s upgrade is official. The HRD ministry and the university will then need to implement a plan already in place to phase IT-BHU out of BHU and into an independent entity.

The HRD ministry will first include the name of IT-BHU in the list of new IITs that it has created, but which are still awaiting legal approval under amendments to the IIT Act.

The Centre hopes to introduce the proposed amendments in the next session of Parliament.

September 7, 2009 6:20 PM
 nitin said:

"The government and BHU will need to complete a series of bureaucratic and parliamentary procedures before IT-BHU’s upgrade is official" . I don't want to be cynical but we need to be cautious and have a constant watch on Ministry and BHU officials talks .

September 8, 2009 3:37 AM
 Abhijeet Ghoshal said:

I agree with Nitin. However, now govt. will include IT-BHU in the list with other IITs, which is a part of the bureaucratic and parliamentary procedures. I don't see any hurdle in the inclusion anymore. Once included, its official.

September 8, 2009 8:57 AM
 Animesh said:

Dear all,
Thanks for your comments. We have created a special post to reflect the latest updates.

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September 8, 2009 10:33 AM
July 5, 2009
@ 12:21 AM

The alumni association would like to welcome all those incoming students who have chosen to make IT-BHU their next home. This article is an attempt to answer some of your most commonly asked questions. Feel free to post a comment, or email us at jee @ itbhuglobal.org if you have any other questions.

 

1. Will ITBHU be converted into an IIT?

We have been lobbying very hard for this, and see it as possible in the coming months, esp. with the new MHRD. The Alumni Association is in regular touch with BHU administration and MHRD and regular updates are posted in our newsletter, the chronicle, at http://www.itbhuglobal.org/chronicle/

IIT or not IIT, IT-BHU has been always rated as one of top engineering colleges in the country. Many surveys have rated it higher than the existing IITs. Apart from great career opportunities, IT-BHU provides many avenues for overall growth of its students. Being a part of BHU, students can study courses at various faculties such as foreign language, music etc. IT-BHU has a very strong network of a LARGE number of alumni, who greatly miss BHU life and are always more than happy to meet and help another ITian.


2. How are the placements at IT-BHU?

The placements at IT-BHU are among the best in the country. Even in the recessionary times, it has had placements above 150%. Many surveys have rated the placements at IT-BHU as one of the best in the country. The institute sees a range companies visiting the instituting, including core engineering companies, IT companies, financial and consulting companies.


3. How are the new branches at IT-BHU?
    - Industrial Chemistry
    - Engineering Physics
    - Mathematics & Computing
OR
  How are the dual degree courses at IT-BHU?

We do not have the placements for the dual degree courses as the first batch is yet to appear for placements. The coursework in the 5 year program involves more research opportunities and given the experience in the IITs, should various opportunities for students.


4. Which is better -- ITBHU(MECH) OR BITS PILANI(EEE)?
OR
Which is better -- ITBHU(MINING) OR NIT Trichy(EEE)/IIIT Hyderabad (CSE)?

Again, we would request students to take the holistic picture to take into account.

One aspect that makes IT-BHU unique is that it allows to develop lateral thinking due to close interactions with guys from such diverse fields like Medical to Arts to Music to various Engineering fields. The place will allow to dream of an idea and validate it with excellent facilities and technical support available out there (129 departments) inside the campus. This is a place where there is confluence of so many cultures and the five or four years of stay moulds you to a near perfect human being capable of handling any adverse situation with absolute ease.

5. How does ITBHU compare with the newly formed IITs?

The new IITs could well go on to become one of the top institutes in the country, but currently most of them are run out of temporary campus. IT-BHU on the other hand, has great facilities and infrastructure for traditional engineering branches and a strong faculty. The student-faculty ratio is one of the best in the country.  For example, the ECE department has one of the best fabrication and VLSI design facilities with all the leading EDA tools donated by several companies.


6. How are the prospects for MBA/MS at IT-BHU?


Many students from ITBHU go for further studies to the top management and engineering institutes every year. The curriculum provides you ample time to prepare for exams such as CAT or GRE, and you also get a great atmosphere since many students prepare for the exams together with you. The institute will provide you adequate opportunities for research oportunities. In terms of research output, IT-BHU was ranked third among all the top engineering institutions in India (including IISc and IITs). So you can imagine that faculty members at IT-BHU are also as good as any IIT.

Students from IT-BHU go to almost all the top universities for higher studies (Stanford, MIT, Berkeley, CMU, Caltech, UMich, UCLA to name a few) and all the top business schools for MBA (Harvard, Columbia, Sloan, Kellogg, IIMs, etc).


7. Which is better -- ITBHU(CSE) OR IIT(CHE/CIV)?

Students should give due opportunity to the branch they are choosing. Sometimes your branch in B.Tech. defines your future career prospects. If you choose IT-BHU over an IIT, the trade-off is a branch with more rewarding career over the IIT tag. Branch becomes more important if you want to stay in engineering profession and want to practice your technical expertise. Just to make a point, if you want to do MS/PhD in Computer Science and Engineering, it makes more sense to do B.Tech.(CSE) from IT-BHU rather than doing B.Tech.(Chemical) at an IIT.

25 Comment(s) (The views expressed here are those of the commenters, and ITBHUGlobal.org is not responsible for them.)
 Pravin Kumar Gupta said:

My son will be joining IT BHU this session. We all are very much anxious to see IT BHU converted into IIT Varanasi. We would like to know, once Govt. has declared to convert it into an IIT, what is holding it? We would also be glad to offer our efforts to get it happened.

Best Wishes

Pravin Kumar Gupta
pravin27may@yahoo.co.in
pravin27may@gmail.com

July 9, 2009 3:07 AM
 R Ramesh said:

My son got AIR 4869 in JEE-2009 and has been offered admission in Ceramic Engineering (B Tech 4 year) in IT-BHU.

What is the prospect for Ceramic Engineering? Do you advise him to take it? He aspires to do management after his engineering degree.

R Ramesh

July 16, 2009 6:48 AM
 Abhijeet said:

Hello Mr. Ramesh,
Let me tell you that at this age, things in media about high salaries for MBAs look very lucrative. When I was of his age, I also wanted to do Management after Engg. But I turend up doing PhD. Definitely you should give importance to your sons' wishes, but you should keep your options open for other things too.
Ceramic Engg is a branch of future if your son can make good use of it during his four years. I have not been into that department, but I know from other sources that the department is normally lenient in terms of grades(You should check the current situation). The advantage of that is, it will be easy for him to maintain high grade points. However, that alone may not be sufficient. I would recommend he should maintain a good position in class, like in top five. That way management or MS/PhD both will be easy for him. For management, he will need time to prepare for CAT. A lenient dept gives more time to prepare for competitive exam like CAT/XAT/GMAT. Therefore, Ceramic engg dept will be helpful for him. Being in top five will give additional advantage to him, although for management that is not very important.
In case he turns towards MS/PhD after his B.Tech., I can tell you whole world is open for him if he is in Top five. During my time, the topper of Ceramic Engg went to MIT (He did some research work also during his four years, which is possible in IT-BHU). People also go to Caltech, UC-Berkeley, Stanford etc. Of course, your son can also go to these places. Also, for ceramic engineers, competition is relatively less than CS, EEE, Mech etc. Being a ceramic engineer, he can work in the areas of material sciences, nano-tech, smart materials etc. All these are future engineering branches. There is a lot of scope after ceramic engineering for research, if he is interested.
I would recommend, please do not hesitate to let your son join Ceramic Engineering. No branch is better or worse. Everything is important. Of course, opportunities are more in CS, EEE, jobs and salaries are higher too. But still, everyone cannot get CS and EEE (I would not recommend joining some other (non-JEE) institute for CS, EEE leaving Ceramic of IT-BHU). So ask him to be encouraged and work hard during his four years. Hard work will definitely pay off.

Thanks,
Abhijeet

July 16, 2009 3:30 PM
 Abhijeet said:

Hello Mr. Ramesh,
Let me tell you that at this age, things in media about high salaries for MBAs look very lucrative. When I was of his age, I also wanted to do Management after Engg. But I turend up doing PhD. Definitely you should give importance to your sons' wishes, but you should keep your options open for other things too.
Ceramic Engg is a branch of future if your son can make good use of it during his four years. I have not been into that department, but I know from other sources that the department is normally lenient in terms of grades(You should check the current situation). The advantage of that is, it will be easy for him to maintain high grade points. However, that alone may not be sufficient. I would recommend he should maintain a good position in class, like in top five. That way management or MS/PhD both will be easy for him. For management, he will need time to prepare for CAT. A lenient dept gives more time to prepare for competitive exam like CAT/XAT/GMAT. Therefore, Ceramic engg dept will be helpful for him. Being in top five will give additional advantage to him, although for management that is not very important.
In case he turns towards MS/PhD after his B.Tech., I can tell you whole world is open for him if he is in Top five. During my time, the topper of Ceramic Engg went to MIT (He did some research work also during his four years, which is possible in IT-BHU). People also go to Caltech, UC-Berkeley, Stanford etc. Of course, your son can also go to these places. Also, for ceramic engineers, competition is relatively less than CS, EEE, Mech etc. Being a ceramic engineer, he can work in the areas of material sciences, nano-tech, smart materials etc. All these are future engineering branches. There is a lot of scope after ceramic engineering for research, if he is interested.
I would recommend, please do not hesitate to let your son join Ceramic Engineering. No branch is better or worse. Everything is important. Of course, opportunities are more in CS, EEE, jobs and salaries are higher too. But still, everyone cannot get CS and EEE (I would not recommend joining some other (non-JEE) institute for CS, EEE leaving Ceramic of IT-BHU). So ask him to be encouraged and work hard during his four years. Hard work will definitely pay off.

Thanks,
Abhijeet

July 16, 2009 3:31 PM
 Shailesh Ch. Sinha said:

Dear Mr. Ramesh

Do not hesitate to get your son admitted in Ceramics Engineering, I have seen the trend since 1985 that is when I joined IT-BHU. I am sure your son will be doing Management in a top Institute in the world (India and The US) after the exposure he gets in the Institute, this is a good platform for him to perform now.

So no worries just go ahead.

July 17, 2009 12:16 AM
 sp shukla said:

Nomenclature makes a difference in listing in admission notices and booklets etc also.

In 1974, when we joined through JEE , the list vegan with Bombay , Delhi ,Kanpur, Kharagpur and Madras .And BHU Institute of Technology , Varanasi.

IT BHU nomenclature came later from admission brochures of 1975 , if I remember right.

New IIT BHU Varanasi will perhaps figure just after Ahmedabad and before Bombay !!

Regards

October 20, 2009 11:17 PM
 mahesh said:

Respected Sir
I would like to go into research field but my family conditons asks me to earn as well.Can i get a decent salary while i am into also what are the scope of engineering physics in this respect

April 27, 2010 1:49 AM
 Dance Beats said:

Now this is more along the lines, I was browsing another website and it totaly had miss information.

May 18, 2010 5:19 PM
 SHUBHAM SHARMA said:

I have got 4501 in jee 2010.
i am getting civil and chemical
and also mathematics and computing (M.Sc.)
my interest is maths. how is the placement performance in all the three.
plz tell which companies/departments recruit students from this branch?
plz. suggest which will be better for me.
should i opt for new iits over itbhu.
also i m hearing news that itbhu will be converted to iit varanasi this monsoon season.
is this true???

May 30, 2010 9:59 PM
 vipul kumar jha said:

sir which would be a btter option ceramic or mining in ITBHU...............
my rank is 5569

June 6, 2010 2:42 AM
 ankit said:

sir which is better option at it bhu
engineering physics(5 yr integrated m tech course )
or mettakurgy ( 4 yr btech )

June 7, 2010 11:14 PM
 ankit said:

i have got 5 yr dual degree in material science and technology in first couselling .
how is this branch what r its prospects , placements and course details.
what should be my preference mech at dce(now dtu)or material at bhu
can i get a better choice in second counselling
plz reply as soon as possible

thanking u
ankit

June 29, 2010 2:01 AM
 abhishek said:

i have got chemical in it-bhu . what is its scope?

July 16, 2010 9:00 AM
 XRumerTest said:

Hello. And Bye.

April 6, 2011 7:29 AM
 SIDDHARTH said:

i got 246 ai rank in gate 2011 in instrumentation engineering with 582 gate score.will i get industrial management engineering p.g with it in it bhu ?
how are the prospects of the stream and its placements ...?can anyone please tell me.

April 10, 2011 2:54 PM
 XRumerTest said:

Hello. And Bye.

April 12, 2011 6:19 PM
 apoorva said:

hello sir,i wanted to know the scope of eengineering physics in future...can u help me....please reply soon

June 7, 2011 10:38 AM
 ankit aggarwal said:

sir,i have got ceramics eng(b tech) in first round of iit seat allotment in it bhu....

should i go for it.........
what r the future aspects of it
n how much is the avg. salary of this in it bhu

June 21, 2011 1:44 AM
 Vineet Lumar said:

Sir, I got Ceramics Engineering IDD, I want to know what Specialisation should be taken after four years Placement Wise and Intrest Wise. I couldn't get Ceramics Placements Detail for previous Years. I have Intrest In Computer Field (Couldn make CSE for IIT Decided to take any Branch). And I well sure and Prepared to do better in this Branch.

July 11, 2011 11:34 AM
 Divyanshu Rathore said:

confused btw MNNIT n BITS
i have opted for iit 3rd counselling cz i got mining from bhu
i heard it is vry tough n lot of field work
i opted for mnnit allahbad as it is good n got cse their n i have BITS score 280
i may opt for it but getting chemistry

June 28, 2012 7:01 AM

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