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March 24, 2011
IITBHU Global Editor @ 02:18 AM


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This page will contain updates from March 24, 2011 onwards.

We are happy to share with you all that our Alumnus Arvind Gupta (ECE 92), Vice President of ITBHU Global Alumni Association, has received written confirmation from the parliament that the IIT bill has been passed by the Lok Sabha.

This is fast developing news, and we request you all to post comments here, as well as follow @itbhuglobal on Twitter for latest updates.

Once again, congratulations to all in the IIT-BHU Family for this well-deserved and long-overdue achievement.

The next step is for the bill to be passed in the Rajya Sabha.

A huge thanks to all those who worked hard on it behind the scenes, as well as those who were active on the discussions, including at the previous post on this topic at ITBHUGlobal.org.

98 Comment(s) (The views expressed here are those of the commenters, and ITBHUGlobal.org is not responsible for them.)
 Shailendra Gupta said:

BHU act amendment would also happen, but you guys need not worry about it (Remember this is a public forum and discussion about how things would happen is not good).

Shailendra Gupta
Trical,05

March 24, 2011 2:33 AM
 Anonymous said:

whAT IS THIS bhu act
but in chronicle it is written this bill is last stage for conversion

March 24, 2011 2:38 AM
 Shailendra Gupta said:

It is.

Shailendra Gupta
Trical,05

March 24, 2011 2:47 AM
 Ritesh Khetan said:

congrates to all!!!
we are waiting for the bill to be passed in R.S.

March 24, 2011 2:57 AM
 Shailendra Gupta said:

It should look like a Diwali in college today !!

Shailendra Gupta
Trical,05

March 24, 2011 3:01 AM
 mishracera said:

what is bhu act????

March 24, 2011 3:11 AM
 Anonymous said:

it will take time to pass the BHU act ??only one day for parliament left....

March 24, 2011 3:27 AM
 Sandeep said:

Dear All,
I congratulate all on conversion of IT-BHU to IIT. Dear, when people from IT-BHU says that we are not upgraded to IITian, it seems some awkward. IT-BHU has its on identity and a great respect. I have felt it at many occasions after passing out from IT-BHU. BHU has its own respect in all community of science, engg, medical, art etc. So, IT-BHUite also get the same at all level. So, I think that we should not be over, because we were the best before conversion also and we will be after conversion. It does't matter a lot for us. It matters for the institutes who do't have any identity, we were having the best identity and we will have.

March 24, 2011 3:35 AM
 sandeep said:

Sorry, please read the second line as: Dear, when people from IT-BHU says that we are now upgraded to IITian, it seems some awkward.

March 24, 2011 3:37 AM
 Anonymous said:

Is this true that there was a huge opposition for the bill in parliament by the opposition parties?

http://www.newsonair.com/news.asp?cat=National&id=NN8484

March 24, 2011 3:45 AM
 Anonymous said:

And how is this going to affect our chances in RS?

March 24, 2011 3:46 AM
 Shailendra Gupta said:

After having watched it on Loksabha TV LIVE.

Yes few people(around 6-10) opposed it a lot, And good part is Mr. Kapil Sibal had a strong position in our favour and thanks to him for that.

However the bill was passed unanimously.

Out of many clauses, at some clause I heard some "No" only once but our Good Mr. Speaker gave him a Nice glance to sit down.

A bill is passed by majority of votes and force is with us.

My guess in that in coming days you might hear some noise over the same, but that is find as long as it is not much.

Shailendra Gupta
Trical,05

March 24, 2011 3:56 AM
 If_Only said:

The opposition is not from the Principal Opposition Part viz. BJP. In fact BJP supports the conversion and Shri MM Joshi ji MP LS from varanasi constituency.

Also, in a parliamentary democracy some noise can never be ruled out. Mostly these are the entrenched grievance of the local ex BHU student council members who influences few MPs to raise such question.

Not at all a cause of worry!

If_Only

March 24, 2011 4:10 AM
 Anonymous said:

is there any possibility of the bill getting passed in RS tomorrow?

March 24, 2011 4:44 AM
 Anonymous said:

so when will our will renamed as iit offically ?

March 24, 2011 5:28 AM
 Anonymous said:

If any of you are interested in reading,here is Kapil Sibal response to the IIT Bill debate..

http://164.100.47.132/newdebate/15/7/24032011/2To3pm.pdf

March 24, 2011 5:48 AM
 Saket Saurabh said:

I guess this bill needs to be passed by Rajya Sabha, but the bill is not listed in tommorrows list of businesses of Rajya Sabha http://164.100.47.5/newlobsessions/sessionno/222/R250311.pdf

March 24, 2011 6:49 AM
 Saket Saurabh said:

I guess this bill needs to be passed by Rajya Sabha, but the bill is not listed in tommorrows list of businesses of Rajya Sabha http://164.100.47.5/newlobsessions/sessionno/222/R250311.pdf

March 24, 2011 6:50 AM
 Saket Saurabh said:

I guess this bill needs to be passed by Rajya Sabha, but the bill is not listed in tommorrows list of businesses of Rajya Sabha http://164.100.47.5/newlobsessions/sessionno/222/R250311.pdf

March 24, 2011 6:52 AM
 Anonymous said:

what do you think, when this procedure will finish, when actually wilwe have a iit bhu

March 24, 2011 7:28 AM
 Anonymous said:

pl any one tell what the hell is this BHU act
.pl confirm is this another step for this conversion

March 24, 2011 7:30 AM
 sitanshu gupta said:

SHRIMATI D. PURANDESHWARI for Ministry of Human Resource
Development

this is written in the list of rajya sabha bills.maybe this one is ours

March 24, 2011 10:07 AM
 Amaresh Prasad(Civ 86) said:

It is the success of team efforts of all of us who worked for several decades to rename IT BHU as IIT BHU. Congratulations to all.

Amaresh Prasad

Mumbai

March 24, 2011 10:13 AM
 Anonymous said:

found the date to be 26th Mar on the link...not sure abt their source though...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institute_of_Technology,_Banaras_Hindu_University#Conversion_of_IT-BHU_into_an_IIT

March 24, 2011 12:12 PM
 1 cent said:

This update is crap. Rajyasabha will not be in session on March 26th. Last day of session is 25th of March.

March 24, 2011 12:29 PM
 Anonymous said:

Congrats to the whole BHU community and esp. to the ones who has put in their gr8 efforts in making this happen. great day in the history of IT-BHU :-)

March 24, 2011 2:07 PM
 Anonymous said:

can anyone let me knw...when the bill will be passed..in R.S....???

March 24, 2011 8:48 PM
 Anonymous said:

most probably in june...Today is the last session of R.S.

March 24, 2011 9:08 PM
 S.C. Sinha said:

Congratulations to the IT ( if I may be allowed to refer to as, for the last time though) community for their efforts and particularly to Shri Upaddhaya for his continuous guidance to his team.
I am reading few news articles pertaining to the conversion and noted that few political parties are trying to draw political advantages and are vying to create hostile atmosphere within the campus.
I remember in 1987 some political leaders tried, with full efforts and bad intentions, to shut down IT-BHU so that their so called agitation become successful.....but to the the better sense that prevailed in erstwhile IT-BHU and endsem eams was conducted successfully. The university was closed sine-die just after new session. Those political leaders have now grown up to the big leaders of one party that is opposing this conversion move.
So, I request students in the Institute to refrain themselves from any political activity directly or indirectly and won't allow anyone to break into the fragile atmosphere that prevail at this time of conversion. Otherwise, the precious time shall be wasted before historical convocation which is in waiting now.
Once again congratulations to you all.
850312

March 24, 2011 10:45 PM
 Anonymous said:

What does this mean ?

HRD Minister Kapil Sibal , while piloting the bill, also said the Banaras Hindu University would not be bifurcated in the process of the giving IIT status to its Institute of Technology.

March 24, 2011 11:30 PM
 sitansu swain said:

Dear all .Congrats to all fellow students.Definitely they will be part of PAN IIT
global association.

S.R.SWAIN
BHUBANESWAR

March 25, 2011 12:13 AM
 Anonymous said:

any update on Rajya Sabha .....

March 25, 2011 3:34 AM
 Shailendra Gupta said:

As per news till now -
Today was the last day of RajyaSabha, Our bill has not been passed by RajyaSabha so far.

Shailendra Gupta
Trical,05

March 25, 2011 5:40 AM
 Anonymous said:

can someone tell me that what is Pan IIT???????I am very excited about it, plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz write soon.

March 25, 2011 8:59 AM
 Anonymous said:

can someone tell me that what is Pan IIT???????I am very excited about it, plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz write soon.

March 25, 2011 9:00 AM
 Anonymous said:

Any updates on Rajya Sabha proceedings about our issue?

March 25, 2011 9:02 AM
 Anonymous said:

not passes in rajya sabha yet...it is not a law untill passed in rajya sabha...we can track the actual status of bill in parliament in the link...

http://prsindia.org/index.php?name=Sections&action=bill_details&id=6&bill_id=1270&category=43&parent_category=1

March 25, 2011 9:41 AM
 Ashish said:

PAN IIT?? Its just a networking forum. No need to be too excited about it.

March 25, 2011 2:24 PM
 Anonymous said:

The next session of parliament is now expected to be in July 2011.

http://ibnlive.in.com/news/no-parliament-session-in-april-due-to-polls/147110-37.html

March 25, 2011 2:51 PM
 Shashank MIshra said:

why does our director sir say that there are still many steps remaining for conversion aren't there just two steps remaining?

March 26, 2011 4:16 AM
 Anonymous said:

Passing of Bill in Rajya sabha will be an easy job, as congress has 71 members in Rajya Sabha (29%), BJP has 50 (21%), and UPA allies have another ~ 25 (10%), which puts together adds to 60%. The parties opposing the bill have put together 25 - 30 seats (10-12%). Then there are parties which are neutral. My guess is that with assembly elections due in 4 states, W.B, TN, Kerala and Assam. Out of this, WB, Kerala and Assam, congress or UPA allies will come to Power. Hence, any future RS elections in these states will be definitely add to no. of RS seats of UPA from ~96 (71+25) to may be ~ 100-105 by Aug'11.
The key here is that we have get BJP support there are Rajya Sabha, which is possible if some influential alumni of ours get in touch with floor leader of BJP in RS, Arun Jaitely. He is a very intellect and influential person, who will always give his support to the bill. I think better if we approach him on our own as well as through MM Joshi (BJP MP from Varanasi).


March 26, 2011 7:21 AM
 Anonymous said:

Next session of Parliament will be from 1st week of July'11. It will be a 7 week long session. Also, we expect that there will not be many contentious issues for discussion then. Hence, most of the time will be put to disucssion on legislative business.

March 26, 2011 7:32 AM
 Anonymous said:

Also, we all have to pray that Lok Sabha lasts its till full life or at least till this bills get passed in RS, as -

Bills originating in Lok Sabha which having been passed by that House and transmitted to Rajya Sabha and still pending there on the date of dissolution of Lok Sabha, lapse

so everyone pray that lok sabha lasts.

March 26, 2011 7:39 AM
 suraj said:

it is compulsion for the gov to pass the bill now.since all the new iits will be completing its 4 year very soon.before awarding degree gov have to pass the bill....so its the gov headache now.......so dont worry abt it....it will be through without any doubt.......

March 26, 2011 8:34 AM
 Anonymus said:

@Shashank Mishra
Your link says
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/varanasi/IT-BHU-excited-about-getting-IIT-status/articleshow/7788621.cms
"It may be mentioned here that though admissions in B Tech courses at IT-BHU are done as per merit index of IIT-JEE (joint entrance examination for IIT), the institute does not attract bright students from IIT-JEE who prefer to join other institutes in the country due to their IIT status."
what does this mean?????
the institute are not getting bright students, we study hard for the biggest entrance exam in India in which less than 3% get selected, we make in India's top 5000 among 500000, still they are insulting their students in public. It was once said on a related forum on the same website that ITians feel ashamed calling themselves one, then after this.......what is expected???

March 26, 2011 8:49 AM
 Anonymous said:

Without getting too much sentimental, have you seen the IIT JEE ranks that come into IT BHU lately?
It has dropped significantly since late 1990's. That does not mean that students are bad(they are in fact very good), but they are not the cream of the country.

There is nothing wrong in admitting that we do not attract the best students from IIT JEE.

That being said, we do hope that making IT into IIT it will result in positives.

More research money being spent, better faculty being recruited, up to date courses and overall better facilities will result in better students and improvement in IT BHU overall.

March 26, 2011 3:17 PM
 Anonymous said:

You can't compare the ranks of 1990's with those of now. There were only 50,000 examinees then. Now there are 5,00,000

March 26, 2011 5:08 PM
 Anonymous said:

at the same time it has also been said that conversion will attract better faculty .. same logic goes there as well ..;) ..
On the serious note moderators can invite the frank opinion of the students about the institute and faculty person by person ,department by department where one can submit the anon opinion .., it will not only help in improving quality but a better management as well .. what you say people ..?

March 26, 2011 5:20 PM
 DAK said:

Jai Ho!

Thanks to MM Malviya ji for his vision. Now we will have IIT-BHU!

March 26, 2011 6:53 PM
 DAK said:

>moderators can invite the frank opinion of the >students about the institute and faculty person by >person ,department by department where one can >submit the anon opinion .., it will not only help >in improving quality but a better management as >well .. what you say people ..?

This is not an opportunity to bad mouth, critique, or criticize the current standard of students or faculty, my friends. Natural course of action, once an IIT, will take care of things in a few years time. I do not want to be more explicit, because there is no need to.

March 26, 2011 7:44 PM
 Well Wisher said:

IT-BHU buys,

Do not forget to get a Havan done before the current semester ends as a gesture of thanksgiving to the BJP type crowd. It will be important, mark my words.

March 26, 2011 7:51 PM
 Well Wisher said:

IT-BHU Guys,

Do not forget to get a Havan done before the current semester ends as a gesture of thanksgiving to the BJP type crowd. It will be important, mark my words.

March 26, 2011 8:27 PM
 a said:

There is no doubt that the folks joining BHU has gone downhill over the years mainly because students now have 15 IITs to choose from then only they think of BHU - in early 90s, until 1993, it was only 5 IITs and then IT-BHU.

To the guy who wrote "...50,000 vs 5,000,000"..You are mistaken my friend, the acceptance rate has remained more or less constant over years. If the number of students appearing in the exam increased, so is number of seats. By the way there was never 50,000 students who appeared in IIT-JEE in 90s.

March 27, 2011 9:34 AM
 Anonymous said:

Thanks a-said.

All i have to say to those who think "everything is correct with IT-BHU and we are fine", don't be hypocritical. Then go tell the administration that the IIT tag is not needed and stop making this as an issue.

IT BHU has seen a lot of deterioration. Most IITians did not consider IT-BHU as an IIT mainly because of the state of the research facilities and outdated education along with its association with BHU back in the early 90's. Maybe the current students should be reminded what happens if you face 2 sine-dies and your career can be in jeopardy.

Unless we do the utmost to change that attitude we will never succeed. I won't be shocked if the new IITs will overtake IT BHU in next few years aand we will be down to only arguments on this mailing list.

I agree with the Director's opinion that we need to attract better and newer faculty / research facilities and funding / students.

That is not possible as long as we dont have autonomy from BHU and are considered an IIT.

March 27, 2011 11:39 AM
 Shanker said:

@Anonymous
I had to respond when I started seeing dirt all over here. At the outset I have to say that none of the current IITs have good research facilities or a good track record of research. In fact IIT's have a very poor record in the research arena. In my area of expertise, in the last 25 years, I have NEVER seen a research paper in any respectable international or US journal, coming out from ANY IITs except one from IIT-R .

This is a very dismal record. Even one of the old 5-IITs do not have the research facilities any better than an average state engg school in the US. I have raised this issue with IIT officials at every opportunity I had, and their response has been frank and truthful when they said IITs were set up for u/g education in India and not as research or post-graduate institutions. So please do not talk about research superiority of the IITs. They are all pretty bad. Even the IIT faculty has a similar story.

The only reason to fame for the IITs is their selection process out of the large pool of very deserving candidates. That is what makes MIT jealous. Those who get into IITs are good to begin with. They are destined to go places. For example, look at Karmakar. he was ranked 2nd in JEE and after 5 years in IIT-B, he ranked 2nd. Same year, the 1st in JEE also happened to go to IIT-B and also in the same dept as Karmakar (I am forgetting his name), and he also maintained his first rank. Karmakar may be now deserving his Nobel prize for his algorithm and the first ranked one became director of the famous Bell Labs.

The last I read somewhere, IT BHU had the best track record in engg research among all engg institutions in India incl IITs. I am proud of ITians of BHU. They carry knowledge, tradition and culture where ever they go.

March 27, 2011 3:32 PM
 Anonymous said:

Oh!..these type of discussions started all over again...care to check the title of this thread please?

March 27, 2011 7:54 PM
 Anonymous said:

bhailog ,
iit to banne do , fir se shuru karenge ye sab :) .
Mods,
can we show one more thread on front page of itbhuglobal.org title something like 'IIT what next ?' or ' what can we do to make our institution better ' ...

thanks,
nitin

March 28, 2011 1:45 AM
 Anonymous said:


Nitin, your point is good. There should be some other webpage where criticisms should be handled separately.

No point arguing on this thread.

Pehle IIT to banne do. that itself seems like a huge step.

March 28, 2011 9:04 PM
 Anonymous said:

will this news effect opening rank and closing rank ?

March 29, 2011 12:51 AM
 Karim Khan said:

Hey Anonymous:
Those who live in glass houses don't throw stones at others....

I thought you started this criticism and garbage discussion on this thread in your post on March 27, 2011 @ 9:34 AM

It is too hot in the kitchen now? Actually, I like what Prof(?) Sankar had to say..very intellectual!

March 29, 2011 3:00 PM
 Anonymous said:

This thread should be closed and removed. Open new one in July or whenever next session starts.

April 3, 2011 10:03 AM
 Anonymous said:

This is dangerous !! How is it going to affect this process?

April 20, 2011 8:23 AM
 Anonymous said:

If the court stays it, conversion may never happen!! Who is this S N Thakkar? Any connection to BSP people who wanted to jeopardize this process?

April 20, 2011 8:31 AM
 Anonymous said:

before it goes too far, what action can we take to avoid it?

April 20, 2011 3:21 PM
 Shailendra Gupta said:

I am not sure about the outcome, but I think everything so far had been done very lawfully and even law ministry has approved it. Hence there should be no problem.

April 21, 2011 3:57 AM
 Anonymous said:

I think vision of Malviyaji was discussed earlier in detail while passing the resolution..

http://www.academics-india.com/BHU%20resolution.htm

April 21, 2011 9:21 AM
 Anonymous said:

who is this S N Thakkar ?and what was the result of hearing today in Allahabad high court today ?

April 25, 2011 7:56 AM
 Anonymous said:

I hope there is no stay order!!

April 25, 2011 3:28 PM
 sud03r said:

The petition filed was rejected!

April 28, 2011 4:05 AM
 Shailendra Gupta said:

:-)

Shailendra Gupta
Trical,05

April 28, 2011 5:17 AM
 Anonymous said:

I love this news :))

April 28, 2011 6:11 AM
 Anonymous said:

The judgment of the honorable court :

Heard learned counsel for the parties.
The Banaras Hindu University, a Central University which also has a Faculty
of Technology as one of the Faculties. The said Faculty is in the process of
being converted into Indian Institute of Technology to be governed by an Act
of Parliament. The petitioners, who are retired Faculty members of the said
University has challenged the said action even though they have no personal
interest and if they are interested, this is not the forum and the petitioners
would have to approach the appropriate forum for any such relief.
Subject to the aforesaid liberty, the writ petition is dismissed.


:)

April 28, 2011 6:55 PM
 Anonymous said:

The conversion would never happen unless a group of students actively involved and meet some influence political leader including BJP. It someone approach Rahul Gandhi it would be a great help.

May 11, 2011 3:08 AM
 Anonymous said:

any news??????

May 16, 2011 11:04 PM
 ITian said:

When is the next Parliament/Rajya Sabha Session?
Is the bill yet to be tabled in Rajya Sabha or is it already tabled and it's just waiting to be passed ? Last time the majority of time was wasted in tabling the bill in Lok Sabha.

May 18, 2011 3:49 PM
 Anand Prakash said:

A bill which has been tabled in Lok Sabha and passed need not be tabled again in the Rajya Sabha. This time only discussion, voting and passing of the bill will take place.

May 20, 2011 8:28 AM
 Anonymous said:

But when is the next session of Rajya Sabha...

May 23, 2011 8:02 PM
 Anonymous said:

During this year JEE counselling, will our insti be projected as IIT? Should we expect better rankers to join IT BHU?

May 25, 2011 12:50 PM
 Saumya said:

kindly try to give the link of this website www.itbhuglobal.org on the IT BHU official website www.itbhu.ac.in so that students who are up for the JEE counselling can get the real news and information about the college and better rankers come to our college who refrain to join our college just because of one I lacking.

May 25, 2011 8:58 PM
 Chandan said:

I am still not sure when the bill will be introduced in RS. Can anyone shed light?

May 31, 2011 12:48 PM
 Anonymous said:

Please see the site of our college.. http://itbhu.ac.in/
it's mentioned (with link) that bill is already introduced...

June 2, 2011 1:26 AM
 Anonymous said:

wen is da bill gng to be introduced...does ny1 ve infrmtn abt dis...??

June 5, 2011 8:18 AM
 Chandan said:

I know that the bill has been tabled, but not yet passed in RS. Would like to update on my resume while applying for a job.

June 8, 2011 7:57 AM
 Anonymous said:

thnx..!!
please do tell any progress in da process...!!

June 8, 2011 8:09 AM
 Anonymous said:

with all the chaos prevailing over blackmoney and corruption issue, it doesnt seem the bil be passed during monsoon session... :(

June 11, 2011 7:27 AM
 Anonymous said:

Keeping fingers crossed

June 13, 2011 9:44 AM
 Ravi Modi said:

The monsoon Session of parliament is expected to start from 7th or 8th July.

June 18, 2011 12:07 AM
 Anonymous said:

Monsoon session of parliament to begin from August 1. Hopefully is baar at the beginning of the session hi bill pass ho jaayega. This is important so that we can receive invitation for Inter IIT sports meet scheduled for December at IIT Kgp. And moreover Im eager to see the signboards here change asap :D

Moderators please contact Kapil Sibal if possible. (Humble request from a current student in his third year who has already missed two inter IIT sports meets.)

July 16, 2011 12:45 PM
 Anonymous said:

can anyone tell the current status in Rajya sabha ...

August 2, 2011 9:29 AM
 Laxman said:

It is very annoying to find that "Institute of Technology Amendment Bill-2011", scheduled many a times on legislative business, could not be considered in the entire monsoon session of Rajyasabha due to continued interruptions & disturbances in the proceedings due to something or other. During the entire session, only 9 bills out of 34 listed could be considered/passed. So, our volunteers & ITians at influential positions need to follow it up with HRD Minister Sh. Kapil Sibal, Leader of Opposition Sh. Arun Jaitely, Prof. Murali Monohar Joshi & Sh. Rajeev Shukla, etc so as to keep the bill in the beginning of Winter Session. It will help in consideration & passing of the bill even with interruptions/ disturbances in between. This will be very much helpful to our Institute as well as to the students who have already paased out & waiting for long to get their Degrees and also those going to pass-out in 2012.

September 10, 2011 12:35 AM
 lalit singh said:

We are fateful to be a citizen of a country where, today, a much prominence is being given to the political activities rather than intellectual activities. The politicians, who are against IIT-BHU conversion, overlook our astuteness, hard effort and dedication to crack the toughest IIT JEE, in believe of getting an IIT status. They are against in the production of cream technocrats, from the India, who can prove the power of astuteness in the world. In this way they are doing injustice to us as well as to the country. They have erroneously made an issue of bifurcation of the institute from BHU, in spite of knowing that it will always be a part of BHU as will be named as IIT-BHU, not IIT-Varanasi. Moreover former chief justice and grandson of Pandit Madan Mohan Malviya (founder of BHU) is in strong favor of this conversion. But we will not allow them to be so injustice with us, and will ‘DO OR DIE’ for this conversion. So dear all let us plan to give DHARNA in DELHI

April 14, 2012 7:54 AM

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